a year to a year and a half ago, i would have taken this article at face value and believed it.. now, i realize this article comes from a dubious source.
world news daily has a die-hard right-wing bias.
so, in an effort to get real information, i'm asking my european exjw's, is this article all true?
prologos
The Turkish people never came to Germany as refugees, they were invited to come in the 50s and 60s as migrant workers, and we are now in the second, third and even forth generation. You cannot invite people to come to a land, give them work, give them homes and offer them citizenship and then kick them out when you no longer require them. The Turkish population should be kept out of the equation, that is a completely different subject.
a year to a year and a half ago, i would have taken this article at face value and believed it.. now, i realize this article comes from a dubious source.
world news daily has a die-hard right-wing bias.
so, in an effort to get real information, i'm asking my european exjw's, is this article all true?
Something that causes a lot of the problems is misinformation, propaganda, sensationalism and stating things that are simply not true.
I have read through the whole thread and some peoples opinions are stated as facts, and that is sad, those who do that know who they are. This is a free site where everybody can state their opinions and feelings, but I really think where anybody states anything as facts then they should provide verifiable information, if they cannot do that then clearly state it is their biased opinion and not based on any facts, then everything is fine.
I do live in Germany and I am happy to live in a land that is willing to assist these people in need. Looking at history it is a fact that when the crisis/war is over a vast majority of those refugees will return to their own countries. In my opinion it is therefore in our own interests (western countries) to help solve the crises in these lands, until that is done, we (the west) being the cause of much of these problems have a moral responsibility.
Going back to the original OP about people seeking more guns to protect themselves, in my opinion this is not true, but again only an opinion I have no verifiable facts. It is a fact however that the ownership of guns is not part of the European culture.
boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.
not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.
this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.
This paranoia could actually be used against the bOrg. Because everybody is to suspect everybody else then mention to one of the Elders the name of a specific person in the congregation, who you think is going to be the next to leave for apostasy.
You do not need to give any details, its just that you have a feeling, no more. You can do this if you attend meetings or not. If you do not go but are suspected of apostasy anyway what you say will have more weight.
This should really get the witch hunt going, and help some to wake up.
if you actually turn your brain on and process what is being said, this article keeps contradicting itself.
"jehovah god created humans with free will, that is, the liberty to choose between one option and another.neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness.
a christian needs to remember the biblical command to keep abstaining from .
The best summary I ever heard was by Douglas Adams in the "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy"
"Because"
third post about the big disappointments that woke me up.
i'm writing them in no particular order.
these episodes made me bitter when they happened.
Good for you. You made the right decision.
On one occasion when the CO and his wife were to lunch, I offered wine to the CO, he promptly refuse and indignantly mumbled something about sacred service. The manner in which he did this was so belittling, it upset his wife so that she turned round to me and said "I would love a glass of wine with my lunch".
So I could drink a nice wine with the COs wife and he just looked on. Anyway after that this CO never treated me with much respect.
do the lottery.
celebrate my child's birthday.
sign workmates birthday cards.
As a witness I use to secretly watch porn and then get a bad conscience, I was hooked, of course never looked to the elders for help.
Anyway now I know this prohibition is just another form of abuse from the WTBS and I will not be struck down during the big A just for watching, it no longer has the appeal. I hardly ever watch porn now, cured, well almost.
What else did I do, got pissed occasionally, now more often, and its fun.
there were always all types of speakers in the org.
myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.
other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.
This is a story I heard.
There was a brother visiting to give his Sunday Public Talk. After the song and prayer he got up to give his talk, but it was quite clear to everybody in the congregation that his flies were open. At attendant immediately got up and approached the speaker to inform him. The very embarrassed speaker turned around to fasten his flies and bent down slightly to do so, catching his tie in the zipper.
"...when our own thoughts are forbidden, when our questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished; when contacts & friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused for an end that never justifies its means.
when our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger.
when we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult.
Thats deeply moving. I have to print that on a visiting card and on the other side of the card links to Apostate sites and give them to every JW I meet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaiyhxmnbik
i am still serving as an elder but just hanging in there.
i think their quandry is that they don't see me out in the field, but when they need encouragement and decent prayer they come to me.. i just got off the phone to this poor sister who i have only met twice.
she is not even in my congregation (her sister is).
iwasblind
Good for you. Continue helping those in need.
